2010-05-28 – Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #19 – Louisiana & Florida


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2010-05-25 – Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #18 – Houston, Dallas/Fort Worth, Grosse Tete, New Orleans


2010-05-25

Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #18

Houston TX, Dallas-Fort Worth TX, Grosse Tete LA, New Orleans LA

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These last few days have been daily long-distance driving followed by speaking and media events, which have left me insufficient time nor adequate energy to compose any blog. So, now that I finally have a “free” day, I’ll devote it to catching up on emails, Facebook, Myspace, and blogging. This CARE-7 tour blog #18, therefore, promises to be long, covering 4 events in Houston TX, Dallas/Fort-Worth TX, Grosse Tete LA, and New Orleans LA.

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#1, Houston. First and foremost, my compliments to Ted, Becky, Abby, Drew, their 2 dogs and 17 cats, for their “southern hospitality”, and not just very comfortable accommodation in their surprisingly immaculate home either.

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When I accidentally broke one of their beautiful porcelain bowls, Becky said comfortingly, “Not to worry, I don’t like that bowl anyway,” and Ted personally cleaned up the mess, and later served me tea in my room.

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Abby, the young lady who invited me to stay, and who wore a Sea Shepherd shirt at the presentation, gave me her stuffed white tiger as travel companion, a travel mug, and the key to the house – to keep!

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A pair of mocking birds in their backyard.

When I was leaving, Becky said, “Whenever you need a place to stay, this house is yours, for as long as you want. Just enter with this key. You don’t even need to call.” And they gave me a care package to taken away – in a very nice fabric-covered cooler.

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The personnel of Vegan World Radio, Houston, TX.

The second thing to be said is the Vegan World Radio interview by Shirley Wilkes-Johnston, on the night of May 19 when I first arrived in Houston from San Antonio. The experience was unlike that on any other radio interview. I was treated like one of their own, instead of a guest.

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The event on May 22nd, Saturday, at the Loving Hut vegan restaurant, hosted by Kristen Lee Ohanyan, was another wonderful experience, even including the heckling by an older gentleman regarding my stand on global warming, which itself amounted to two-negatives-make-one-positive. They even made me a “Peace Cake”, shared by all.

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With Shirley Wilkes-Johnston in the audience,

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and my long-time friend J.H.

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Kristen Lee Ohanyan introducing my talk.

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And the Peace Cake rounding up the very full evening.

Before leaving Houston, I should mention the two white tigers trapped in a dungeon-like restaurant display in the Aquarium. Back in 2004, while on CARE-1, I participated in a local campaign to keep the tiger “exhibit” from becoming a reality, including testifying in city council as a tiger conservation expert, but, since money talked the loudest, it was to no avail.

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Now, the tigers are still there, trapped in that medieval prison – the indoor equivalent of Tony-the-Tiger in Louisiana (see below).

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After a 7-hour drive from Houston came the next and last Texan city on this CARE-7 tour – Dallas/Fort Worth. The event organizer and accommodation host was the wonderfully genuine Shannon Morgan,

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whose beloved dog Sophie was under the life-threatening combination of being seriously ill and being hit by a car where it hurt on the very day I was giving a talk in Houston. She called me while I was on my way to the Loving Hut, in tears, asking for my prayer and blessing for both her and Sophie, which of course I sincerely volunteered. While I was in the Loving Hut, waiting for the talk to begin, I called her asking how she and Sophie were faring, and she was more than extremely grateful. She even told Catherine what a spiritual person I was, which I could be, but in that instance, it was only a matter of caring.

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The event venue was the Boys Activity Center, the alternative to the Spiral Diner, whose new owner refused to let her hold the event after-hours (5pm), for profit reasons I presume. Shannon worked hard on organizing the event, and made good her word to produce a good-sized audience, with many beautiful activists present.

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One asked me what I thought about activism in Texas, its being an ultra-conservative state. I answered that the more conservative the background, the more advanced the activism. They themselves are the proof.

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The drive to New Orleans the next morning, the 24th, was a 10-hour scenic cruise,

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Note the name of the company on the door.

including a heart-rending interlude at the “Tiger Truck Stop”, where Tony-the-Tiger has languished in a small enclosure smaller than a basketball court for the 10 years since his birth.

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The Green Hornet at Tony’s prison.

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Alligator heads in the souvenir shop.

Cindy Wines nd Sky Williamson took it upon themsleves to arrange media coverage for me, which brought out NBC Channel 33

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and The Advocate newspaper.

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While there, I asked the care-taker to call Michael Sandlin, the owner of the truck stop, for me to personally deliver a plea to let Tony go – to a larger and more natural-feeling big cat sanctuary to spend the rest of his days. The conversation was civil, and we mutually agreed to talk more in the coming days.

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After the truck stop, I drove on to New Orleans to deliver my speech at Leslie Brown’s Manhattan-like apartment, with many refined members of the New Orleans Vegetarian Society present.

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Deloris on left, my gracious accommodation host.

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This morning, the 25th, the following article appeared in the The Advocate newspaper and its website http://www.2TheAdvocate.com, with 17 comments by blog time. Mission accomplished, for now.

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THE ADVOCATE,
New Orleans, Louisiana

NEWS

Activist: La. shamed by tiger’s plight

Animal rights activist Anthony Marr talks to onlookers Monday in front of the cage at Tiger Truck Stop in Grosse Tete where Tony, a 550-pound Siberian-Bengal tiger lives. Marr said hopes to raise awareness about the tiger’s condition so the animal can be placed in a sanctuary.

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Capitol News Bureau

* By KORAN ADDO
* Advocate Westside bureau
* Published: May 25, 2010 – Page: 1B

Comments (17)

GROSSE TETE — The condition of a tiger living at a truck stop as a roadside attraction is “a blight on the face of Louisiana,” an internationally known animal rights activist said.

Anthony Marr visited Tiger Truck Stop Monday to see Tony, a 550-pound, Siberian-Bengal tiger, as part of a 40-state tour.

“In India, in their natural habitat, there is one tiger for every 10 square miles. In Siberia, there is one tiger for every 100 square miles,” Marr said. “What I’m looking at is a 10 by 15 enclosure. I’m not saying dogs are inferior, but I wouldn’t treat a dog like this.”

Marr lives in Vancouver, British Columbia. In the animal rights community, he is known as the “Champion of the Bengal Tiger.” He was in Louisiana on the eighth stop in his six-month, 40-state Compassion for Animals Road Expedition, or CARE tour.

Standing in front of the cage where Tony paced in circles, Marr said he hopes he can garner attention from animal activists to put enough pressure on Iberville Parish, the state and the truck stop’s owner, Michael Sandlin, to have Tony placed in an animal sanctuary.

If that doesn’t work, Marr said, he will reach out to wealthy friends in the conservation community and offer to buy Tony from Sandlin.

As he snapped photographs of the tiger, Marr looked at Tony’s fenced-in enclosure with its concrete floors and a small patch of grass.

“This is probably the poorest tiger in the world,” he said. “His quality of life is zero. This is a beautiful state, but this is a blight on the face of Louisiana.”

“This tiger may give momentary pleasure to people who come see him,” Marr added. “It certainly won’t make their day, but it ruins the entire life of this poor creature.”

Sandlin, the truck stop owner, said he commends Marr for his conservation work, but disagrees that Tony is suffering.

Tony was born into captivity, raised as a pet and the truck stop is the only home he has ever known, Sandlin said.

“With the tiger’s natural habitat disappearing very quickly, I think it’s important that tigers be allowed to be kept in captivity,” he said.

Sandlin also confirmed that Marr has called him about selling the tiger, which costs Sandlin about $2,000 per month to keep.

“That’s not really something I’m considering. I’ve had tigers for 23 years,” he said.

The truck stop owner also said he takes exception to animal activists who only want to take the tiger away.

“They never offered money to help us build a swimming pool for Tony, or to expand his cage,” he said. “The only ones who offered something to benefit him was the Humane Society last year.”

Sandlin said he will consider moving Tony to an animal sanctuary only when the 10-year-old tiger gets too old or too sick to be exhibited.

But with the average life span for tigers kept in captivity being about 20 years, that will likely be several years away, Sandlin said.

Furthermore, a veterinarian examined the tiger May 19 and gave the animal a clean bill of health, he said.

“I can’t thank all the activists for any help they’ve given us, but I would like to thank them for a million dollars worth of free advertisements,” Sandlin said. “Business is better than ever.”

The tiger was at the heart of an animal-rights battle last year pitting Sandlin against activists trying to have the tiger removed.

Sandlin won permission from the parish and the state last year to keep the tiger after agreeing to guidelines specifying about how to care for the animal. As a condition of receiving that permission, Sandlin will not be allowed to have another tiger once Tony dies or is legally transferred from the parish.

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jwrig22: It really is a shame. At least Mike’s habitat is fairly big and nice. Tony’s is worse than the Baton Rouge Zoo! – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 2:08 AM

Anonymous: Mr Sandlin is a pig ! he just proved he cares nothing for that poor tiger he only cares about how much money he can make ! we have to keep fighting for Tony’s freedom!!! – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 4:40 AM

Anonymous: I like the idea of starting a fund for bigger and better place for Tony. A pool would be a good start. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 5:00 AM

Anonymous: mr. sandlin is only thinking of his own interests, not tony’s. if he truly cared about tony, he would let him go to big cats rescue in florida. there he would truly be cared for and appreciated. I appreciate Anthony trying to help. this torturing of tony by making him live in such an environment, reflects terribly on the state of louisiana. you should all be very ashamed of this! i wonder if sandler would like sleeping at a truck stop with trucks roaring around constantly? so very sad and inhumane. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 6:46 AM

Anonymous: It’s disgusting how Sandlin says he appreciates all the free advertisement and that business is better than ever. The man is obviously morally bankrupt! It’s obvious that all he cares about is money and not how much Tony suffers, breathing in gas fumes from the trucks night and day. I’m appalled that anyone would say that Tony is better off at a truck stop than at an animal sanctuary. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 7:26 AM

Anonymous: People need to let this go unless they’re willing to raise money to buy the animal. The Tiget Truck Stop gets a free plug every few months when the latest activist comes through. Congratulations Mr. Marr you just raised the tiger’s value.(if buying it was even possible) – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 7:47 AM

Anonymous: Boycott his truck stop. I know the truckers may not be able to, but everyone else can. Clearly, the guy is concerned only with money. If keeping the tiger costs more than he makes off of it, then he will sell it. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 8:04 AM

Anonymous: Anthony Marr a hero. He speaks for ALL ANIMALS! Ironically I was watching the news this morning and saw a story of the oil spill and the damage to the wetlands and wildlife in Louisiana.. People are outraged about this, as am I, yet they allow this beautiful animal to live in hell…. I’m a little confused Louisiana…. Aren’t ALL animals created equal????? – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Anonymous: This last comment was written by me, Toni Albanese in Idaho… I don’t know why it shows as anonymous but I am a person with a name and am proud to speak on behalf of Tony… – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Anonymous: “This is probably the poorest tiger in the world” said by Anthony Marr himself. Isn’t that enough? Sandlin said he will consider moving Tony to an animal sanctuary only when he gets too old or too sick to be exhibited. All of you that feel Tony would be fine with a ‘nicer’ enclosure are not seeing the big picture. Sandlin DOES NOT have Tony’s best interest at heart as you can see by that comment, and this one “I can’t thank all the activists for any help they’ve given us, but I would like to thank them for a million dollars worth of free advertisements,” Sandlin said. “Business is better than ever.” This is a man that claims to love Tony but what he loves is the money Tony brings him. None of us who DO have Tony’s best interest at heart are backing down anytime soon. Thank you Anthony Marr, for standing with us and seeing that Tony deserves so much better. He may only have 10 years left, let’s make them the best 10 years Tony has ever had! Posted by ~Angie Tipler~ – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Anonymous: Yeah….. but what about Mike? Oh, it’s ok for him to stay locked up because he serves a “purpose” and has a fancy smancy cage? And his purpose pertains to sports so in this city he has about a .01% chance of being sent to a more livable sanctuary with Tony. If I was Mike, I would be upset with the folks trying to free Tony and not him. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Erica: Tony needs go to a sanctuary to enjoy the rest of his life. The life he lives is NO way for any animal to live. Being a spectacle and having to breathe in exhaust fumes every day is no life for him. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Anonymous: Tony needs to be relocated–Period! – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Sera: Come on Iverville parish–get with the program! – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Maj D Bleak: I agree with the individual who suggested raising funds to buy the tiger and then relocate it to a more suitable environment. As per usual, an empty wagon makes a lot of noise. Evidently, those who are protesting the loudest aren’t willing to put money, time, or effort toward resolving the issue. Typical. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Sera: But why should it be up to everyone else BESIDES Mr Sandlin to raise money for a better enclosure? He took on this responsibility when he decided he had to have tigers as an “Attraction”. Besides that, where is ANY form of enrichment–it doesn’t take much someitmes! So he needs to be prepared to do it right–which he is NOT! – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Loulou: Someone once told me; if you don’t support it they could not keep it. Tony is most likely the truck stops money maker because people know there is a live tiger at the “Tiger Truck Stop”. It is the tourist that stop off the interstate wanting to see the Tiger that keeps the exhibit going. If people stopped going they could not afford to keep up the cost of $2,000 a month cost to keep Tony in this hot box he lives in. Summer is only beginning, the tempature in my car today said 103 degrees. It has to get outrageously hot in the mid-summer. I know they say he doesnt have a pool but, does he have anything to keep him cool? True Tony was raised there and he knows of nothing better. I think if they want to keep him they should find a way to raise the money to give Tony a bigger and better place to live with lots of shade, grass and a pool of some sort and away from the noise and fumes from the trucks. Let the tourist that enjoy the attraction drop money in a box for a “Save the Tiger Fund”. Well then I guess you would have to make sure it went to Tony and no one else. – Posted on May 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM

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Heal Our Planet Earth (HOPE)
Global Anti-Hunting Coalition (GAHC)
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http://www.ARConference.org

Bow-hunters’ revealing self-damning confessions


Thanks are due to Lane Ferrante for discovering this gold mine of a link.

Why a gold mine? Because the bow-hunters always try to justify their evil pleasure by arguing that they always recover their quarries and the deer never die a lingering death. And here is this site-forum in which they openly confess to the contrary. See for yourselves.

http://www.rubsnscrapes.com/Articles/deer_shot_placement_anatomy.php

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Charlie – October 03, 2008
thanks for the picks these should help me take a better, more ethical shot in the feild. I am going bow hunting for my first time this year and i am stolked.

wrinklebrow1 – October 21, 2008
this saturday is my daughters first deer hunt these photos and graph are exactly what she needs to see. Its far better than me showing her a picture of a deer and trying to explain the way it is inside.THANKS.

Terese – November 10, 2008
Is it possible to have a lung shot, high in the lung area just behind the shoulder, and track 200 yards only to find no deer? Do you think it would have died in the vicinity and we overlooked it. When air bubbles are evident in the blood, with large amounts of blood, is it possible that the deer will live?

janice P – November 14, 2008
Thanks for the awesome diagram for placements. This was sent to me by a friend to asssit me with my first deer hunt!! I am a turkey hunter, so this will help me with a larger target!! thanks

Andy K – November 21, 2008
I shot my first buck three times in the chest with 16 G. slugs. The first shot droped him, he tried getting up so i shot two more times. He lay there for ten minutes motionless then got up and ran.I tracked him about 500 yards to a lake and lost the blood trail and never found him. What happened!!!!!!

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camoprincess – December 08, 2008
this will be my first time shooting a deer. its will be my 15 birthday. i am always nervous that i will miss. is there any way for me to calm down????

John B. – December 28, 2008
Just shoot a deer at 33 yards. Watched her stumble for approx. 15 minutes. She finally bounded (stumbling) away with her companion Retrieved my arrow, but no blood on the shaft. Broadhead buried in the dirt couldn’t see or smell blood. Thought I missed went back to stand. Not satisfied got down went to where I shot the deer and found blood, significant blood. The blood wasn’t rich dark blood but bright not watery. Attempted to trail but darkness prevented recovery. Do you think this was a fatal shot?

Tom – September 08, 2009
I have been hunting for years now. These are great pics to show my son where to shoot at for a clean kill. thanks.

George – September 14, 2009
Disappointed I could not find her. Shot, I think, slightly behind the shoulderand a little high. Arrow was clean pass thur with blood on it but absolutely NO blood trail, at all. I started looking too early and the wood was large. Shot from about a 30 degree angle plus. Also, using an Excalibur crossbow. Very fast, very powerful. Have had a couple friends mention that they have lost game before because they think the arrow goes thru too quickly. Just don’t know. I look for the buzzards.

Russ Chastain – September 21, 2009
There’s no way your arrow went through too quickly. That is baloney – the faster it goes through the deer, the better your chances of a pass-through shot and a good blood trail.

A high shot may mean less chance of a good blood trail, because the internal bleeding would have to fill up a large area before the blood began to spill from the wounds.

Use a good broadhead – I used a 2-blade Rage with a crossbow on my first archery deer, and she died within seconds, within sight, with an excellent blood trail. Check it out: http://hunting.about.com/od/arch/ss/my_first_archery_deer.htm

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ben – September 23, 2009
john.b if the blood was bright then that was lung blood! and that is very fatal!! holp i helped?!?!?

BIG DADDY – September 24, 2009
THERE IS TWO PICS, THE SHOTS ARE LOW PRECENTAGE KILL ZONES FOR NEW BOWHUNTERS OR A VETERAN BOWMAN!

BIG DADDY – September 24, 2009
ben if the blood was real red bright blood it might be muscle blood lung blood is more pink than real red and you would see air bubbles there

Tim – October 03, 2009
I am hunting for two years now with my bow and i learned in order to be more ethical i have taken away all other pins except for my twenty yard pin this enables me to know 20 yards is where my pin is so i bring it up or down depending on deer distance i wont ever go over 30 yards

Andrew – October 08, 2009
First time hunter with a bow and I cant wait to try it. thanks for the tips and pictures It will definatley help. but whats the best lungs and heart??

Brad – October 09, 2009
I just hit one at 25 yards, a monster 8 point, and he jumped the string and my spitfire 100 grain hit him high and 2/3rds back from a 14 ft, stand angle. I pan to look tomorrow for him. What are my chances?

Scotty B – October 10, 2009
Brad – sounds like a liver shot. He may go several hundred yards – but he’s dead. Blood may be sparse, but don’t give up and you will find him.

houa – October 11, 2009
wheres the part about helping to calm down before taking the shot

Brad – October 11, 2009
Well I looked, found my arrow, it only went in 6 inches, but I found sparse blood and jumped him 15 hours later in a really thick parcel of woods 500 yards from where I shot him. He bolted so I circled around and I think he laid down in the thick next to the high river. we plan on doing a drive where we he laid down in hopes of finding him. Since he lived 15 hours I am afraid I just hit muscle and bone, maybe grazed the liver or kidneys, what are my chances now Scotty B?

Mark – October 14, 2009
First time hunting with a bow this year. last night before sundown, saw an 8pt buck, shot and hit him, probably in the lungs because there was lots of pink. He took off, so I started following his blood trail, led right down to the lake about 200-300 yds away. By then it was dark, but with so much blood lost, about 3-4 bigger pools, i dont see how he could survive. What are the chances i find him in the water first thing in the morning? do they float for long? Is the meat still good if I do find him?
Thanks
Austin – October 15, 2009

First time bow hunting thanks for the tips. Now i know what to do in the stand.

GM – October 18, 2009
A NICE BUCK WAS BEDDING DOWN WITH HEAD EXTENDED UP AND FACING MY RIGHT SIDE.IWAS 19 YARD AWAY 45 DEGREE FROM HIS RIGHT SHOULDER ,GROUND LEVEL ,I PULLED MY BOW BACK AND SHOT BEHIND THE SHOULDER ,IT WAS RAINING DOWN AND ALMOST GETTING DARK .WHEN THE ARROW HIT THE BODY I HEARD A SOUND THE BUCK GOT UP RAN INTO A THICK AREA ,THE END OF THE ARROW ABOUT 4-5 INCHES SNAPED OFF AND FELL DOWN OF THE THE BUCK I SPEND 2 DAYS LOOKING FOR HIM NO TRACE NO BLOOD BECUSE OF THE RAIN DO U THINK HE STILL ALIVE
THANKS
K

mike – October 20, 2009
oh no he is dead forsure

mike – October 20, 2009
muzzelloading is the only way to go

Smitty – October 22, 2009
Great illustrations on the correct target zone!
Thanks

LILL YIM – October 25, 2009
JUST SHOT A BUCK 35 YARDS LAST NIGHT LOT O FUN FRUM GETTING IN TH STAN WACHING THE SUNSET TOO DRINKING A BEER WITH THE DEER AND A GOOD BUD.AND, NOPE NO CURE 4 FRUM THE PRE SHOT HEART POUNDING IN YOUR THROAT ADRENALINE RUSH SORRY!!! HOUA

LILL YIM – October 25, 2009
sorry that would b stand and watching was up till 3 lastnight

clyde – October 26, 2009
just started bow hunting this year. absolutely hooked. Took my first deer this year about 3 weeks into the season. Thought the shot was a little high but thought i still had a lung shot. Called my friend who took almost an hour to get there before i even got out of my stand. Go to start tracking it, No Blood, found my arrow with a spot of blood and mostly guts. So we tracked basically how i saw the deer run. Found it dead 50 yards away. What happen?? My broadhead snapped off on contact and redirected back into the guts and came out on the same side the arrow initially went in. Didnt hit any vitals. Pure luck on how we found it.

Peyton. R – October 30, 2009
great pictures!!!!!!!! im so ready to hunt tomarow… if i see one im ganna drop him/her in a second!

brian s – October 30, 2009
I just shot a nice eight pointer tonight, it was broadside, about 15 yards, i was up about 12 ft. deer was standing left side to me, i put the arrow behind the front shoulder, looked like the best shot i ever had. it ran off, i saw the arrow in it, then found half the arrow about 25 yds from where i shot. solid blood on the arrow up to the fletching. so at least 8 inches of 3 blade satellite broadhead and arrow still in him. it was getting dark, could not find a blood trail, and it is now raining. i’m sad.. i cant look for it until morning. what are my chances do you think?

Chris – October 31, 2009
Samcked a doe in the shoulder at 15 yards. Tracked a long way with good bright red blood with bubbles in it but could not find her.

brian s – October 31, 2009
I looked all morning, from 8 a.m to noon. i took a break had something to eat, i went back out and found my 8 pointer around 2 in the afternoon. i worked my butt off and covered alot of swamp and balsams. it went about 500 yards. broadhead hit the inside of the right shoulder and never exited. i had no blood, just a lot of searching and a little luck.

bill e – November 01, 2009
i shot a monster saturday morning he came in following a doe when see passed he came in and gave me a broad side shot at 15 yrs i hit him, which i thought was a great shot in the heart he ran over about 20 yards and stopped than walked up a little hill still only 45-50 yards away and layed down after a few minutes he stood up and almost fell over so he layed back down and stayed there for about 20 or so minutes, i thought this is sweet. to my amazement he stood up and walked off into a thicket i waited about a hour and climbed down and sliped out in the other direction. went back with a friend after 4 1/2 hours hoping to get some great pics and put my hands on his rack. went right where i hit him had lots of blood right to where he layed down and was not able to find and more blood no where he just was not bleeding anymore we looked and looked for 2 days now. can any body tell me where or how i messed up

eric – November 01, 2009
anything but broadside or quartering away is an unethical shot. especially with a bow.

Charles Ronk – November 03, 2009
Hello Sunday Night I shot a large buck. It was a broadside shot from about 25 yards with a 60lb PSE bow. My tree stand is about 18 feet high. The arrow completely passed through. there is blood up the complete arrow shaft and on all three fletching. It looked like a good shot in the front half of the deer. The buck jumped straight up then ran about 20 yards with a slight limp and then casually bounded away. The deer bled bright red, decent at first but then after about 200 yards the bleding started to slow down after 400 yards it had all but stopped I found two more drops over the next 100 yards. Then nothing. I went back twice looking everywhere and couldn’t find this buck. The broadhead is a muzzzy 125. Where could this shot have hit to cause this kind of damage. I feel just sick losing a deer like this and don’t want it to happen again. The only thing I could think is that I caught only one lung. please help. thanks.

Mike Maxson – November 03, 2009
Shot a ten point at 5:15 @ 15yrds. Picture perfect I think. Right at shoulder blade, but only got 7″ penetration so no doubt hit some bone. Do you think 7″ hit a lung? Hoping to find him in the morning.

swright – November 04, 2009
11-4-9 hit a 6 pt in shoulder good blood trail found arrow 200 yds away blood stoped cold do you think am over looking something??

rdoenr – November 04, 2009
Shot a huge buck last night at 5:30 broadside @ 18 yds right behind the left shoulder. I found blood where the arrow passed through, but Ive found no other blood following his tracks. Any suggestions?

Rob – November 04, 2009
I shot the biggest 8 point I have ever had the oppurtunity to shoot at 17 yards. Placed the shot behing the shoulder. He broke my arrow in half while running. Tracked blood aprox /4 mile and just went from good to drops, then nothing. Im trying to figure out what went wrong. The only thing I cann think of it was to high, arent there vitals up there. but ut wasnt high enough to spine him. What do you think

bill e – November 04, 2009
On Nov 1st, I posted the story of the Monster Buck I thought was in the bag. While sitting in the stand the past 4 days I had lots of time to think abouth that day and many hunts passed. My shot was in the crease and passed straight thru. I may have been in that spot between heart and lungs with the angle of shot may not hav hit vitals. He only went 45 yds and layed down. For more than a half hour he did get up once and layed back down on his opposite side. I believe he clotted up, leaves stuck to the blood make like a bandaid leaving no blood when he got up and walked off.
It has alwasy been known that archery has low percentage rate for recovery. I have shot many doeer over the years with gun & bow, heave learned one thing, deer have an incredible will to live, especially Big Bucks. I shot one with the gun weeks after baow season ended, he had about 4 inches of arrow & broadhead between his shoulder blades. The deer looked like he was getting along fine til he got close to me. Not all deer die with what you may think is a mortal shot. It broke my heart when I could not find this buck. Is he still alive, I hope so. I do know I will be back in the stand in the morning, hoping to redeem myself. May your blood trails be short and your venison never over cooked.
Bill E.

Charles Ronk – November 05, 2009
I was wondering since all of these postings are about the same thing losing deer with what seemed like a good shot could anyone recommened a good broadhead. It seems funny to me when I hunted back in the 80’s with a cheap 50# compound bow and 4 blade broadheads I never lost a deer. Now I am using a newer fast shoting PSE that I group at 3″ at 30 yards with carbon arrows and muzzy 125 broadheads. In the last week I have shot two deer in the front shoulder with complete pass through shots both deer went over 600 yards then stopped bleeding and I couldn’t recover either one.

Brett H. – November 05, 2009
Monday at 6:45am shot a 145 class 10 pointer- I either pulled the shot or he didn’t stop like I thought he did. Arrow hit just in front of hips. Over the next 26 hours, I tracked him over 500 yards, bumped him once, backed out for 4 hours or so, watched him thru binocs for 2 hours, thought I watched him expire, came back 1 1/2 hours with my boys, bumped him a second time- left overnight and found him another 100 yards away the next morning at 8:30, still alive… but weak enough for me to finish him off with another shot. I feel so blessed to recover the largest deer I’ve shot at in 10 years of hunting. Granted my shot was poorly placed, but I discovered a nasty green infection in his front right shoulder upon processing the deer. He was obviously injured before I shot him. Lost the meet, but gained a trophy for my mancave!

j. johnson – November 06, 2009
just shot a huge 8pt. he was 6 yds and i shot him in the chest exactly where the red dot on the pic above is located. arrow went in about 8\” and he turned and fell on his chest and broke it off. blood everywhere!!! I\’ve given him 5hrs to die. headed to the woods now to look for him. sorry for the unethical shot. but, at 6 yds i figured i could pull it off. Wish me luck.

K Seekford – November 07, 2009
I just shot a small buck and had a clean pass. My arrow is covered in poop. He walked off slowly then laid down about 40 yards away. I plan to go try to find him in the morning. What are the chances he’s dead?

Thanks, Ken…
K Seekford – November 08, 2009
I looked for 5 hours today and found only a dozen of very little drops op blood then nothing. there is a small creek but I searched along the creek and still no deer.If I hit him in the gut will he make it or not? Also where he laid down the first time there was only one drop size amount of blood nothing more. Should I continue to look or hope he makes it until next time?
If any one can help I would be very thankful. I hate the thought of loosing him. It’s about 65 out now and going up to 72 today.
Thanks, ken…

dave – November 08, 2009
Shot a buck @20 yard from a 15 foot treestand.
hit high behind shoulder. he ran into a tree a few feet away, breaking arrow. found 10″ fletching half with bright blood up to fletching. 10 feet away, found broadhead side with blades missing but no blood,no smell. no blood trail. I have never had this happen before. any suggestions?

Brian bart – November 08, 2009
I just hit a buck of a lifetime sat morning, I looked for him for two days and never found him. The shot was verticaly correct for a lung shot but to far back on a horizontal shoulder shot. based on you chart it lookes like I hit him in the liver or upper -back lung. What does a deer tipicaly do after being hit in the liver, will he die, lay down, how far will he go after a shot like that. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

Brian bart – November 08, 2009
Also, for whatever reason, the arrow only penetrated him about three to six inches so it never went through him. As a result there was no exit womb and very little blood trail. The blood I did find was dark purple-redish in color. What should I do, how far should I look, is it posable that this deer has not died or will survive.

brian s – November 09, 2009
Reading some of the stories here, I am reading about a lot of shoulder shots. I have bow hunted for years, and never intentionally tried to shoot the deer in the shoulder. The best shot is right behind the shoulder. The idea is not to intentionally hit bone with a broadhead. There are only two shots out of the example pictures that I would take with a bow, looking left to right it would be picture #3 and #4. Those other shots, are bad decisions.

brian s – November 09, 2009
Also some tips on tracking. After you have established the direction the wounded deer went, they usually head for water, or low swampy areas. They will try and hide, make sure you look under small clumps of evergreens, fallen logs, etc. Break the area up into small sections and walk those sections leaving no spot unlooked.

Terry Collier – November 09, 2009
I hit my first buck yesterday morning i thought he was about 25 yards shot and hit him. i seen the arrow sticking out as he ran by. i got overly excited and lost track of which direction he went, but i knew i had him so i went back to where i shot him seen where he took off and went in that direction. no blood. i tracked for about 5 hours and found not a drop of blood. what possibly could have happened.

EFREN G.-Nov.09.09 – November 09, 2009
Hello everyone wondering if anybody shooting rage broadheads and having trouble dropping deer I’ve lost 2 in 2 years bowhunted for over 25yrs. both good hits lost a nice buck last night most deer lost in my career.THANKS

Luke – November 09, 2009
My brother shot a 10pt from about 10yds in a ladder stand about 15ft up, think it was a shoulder shot from the way he said he saw it about 150yds away limping and his shot description. After 200yds we found good blood for about another 100yds then spotty for 75 yds, we searched for 8hrs straight and found nothing else..he was using rage broadheads which broke off in the deer with about 5″ of arrow. We grid searched the deer…any advice?

EFREN G. – November 09, 2009
Luke sounds like what I went through today my shot was 3 inches over heart watched buck stand for 20+ mins.before walking into swamp… blood for 75yds.than nothing.Don’t think broadhead opened.Sounds like you done what you could.Fix blades here I come.THANKS

Luke – November 10, 2009
Efren, ya I completely agree with that last statement, I think we might switch to the montec G5’s

bill e – November 10, 2009
on nov 1st and 4th i posted my story well this passed week end i shot a doe great shot she ran 30 yards and piled up.my friend came in to help me drag and i told him i have been seeing crows fling to the ground about 100 yards up in the thicket he went in and found my buck that i had shot a week early i knew i made a great hit on him to bad i lost the meat but came out with the bone. he is a 10 pt with a 2-3 inch sticker.dont give up and watch the birds they will pick every piece of meat off the bones

Chunkster – November 10, 2009
well, i keep going out…and keep blowing opportunities. the bucks aren’t huge…but i still get too nervous when they come in. i keep shooting over their backs. i’ve only been bowhunting for a couple years..so maybe i need to learn how to control “fever”. any help would be nice.

EFREN G – November 10, 2009
Chuckster …My son had same proplem when he started as we all have.. what I told him was once you’ve made up your mind that you are going to shoot.Never look at the eyes again take deep breath start by lifting your bow from under the deer go up 1/3 with correct pin and pick a hair and shoot.(remember aim small miss small) good luck I hope this helps you) LUKE thats my choice of fix broadhead.GOOD LUCK

Smitty, IN – November 10, 2009
Went out last Thursday early a.m. Shot the first deer I saw–she was trotting toward me, head down, and never saw me! I hit her @ 20 yds +/- a foot, with a G5 Montec. Total p/t with 50lbs draw. My arrow fell to her left side on the way out, so I must’ve only caught her just above her cleavage where it meets the forward part of the shoulder. Picked up the blood trail over 250 yrds away on a well traveled deer path in a marsh. I followed it for about 200 yrds and no more blood–the dog couldn’t even pick it up.
And Sunday was just a hair better–it was 6-8 pt buck this time. And he was the second deer of the morning I saw. I hit him at less than ten yrds as he watched me raise my bow to take the shot, which caught him somewhere in the neck–I was looking at my 30 yd pin in the center of his chest, but I must’ve hit him a bit higher. He bled all the way into the corn, which made it easy to track (at first), but I lost track of the trail after four hours of searching with a friend and two dogs. He’s either still in the corn, or he picked up a doe to clean’m up and help’m out to the woods.
This is my 1st yr out, and I don’t know how to feel about these experiences. It’s fun, but I’m getting pissed that my deer are growing wings after I shoot them!

bill e – November 11, 2009
smitty maybe you should stick to bowling or some other sport taking shoots like that

Matt B – November 11, 2009
Shot a buck last night, he dropped in his tracks. He started flipping then ran with his back legs only. Started raining after he ran into a swamp, haven’t found him yet.

Billy T – November 12, 2009
I’m freaked out over my shot from last night. I shot a nice four pointer about 20 yards away — heard the “whump” saw him jump and run up out of the dirt. He got about 10 more yards and stopped for a second, then with tail down, walked VERY slowly down a trail surrounded by cat-tails (I hunt near the water). Thing is he had my arrow sticking at least 2/3 out the exit side — no blood but clearly stuck in his rib cage – I shoot a 70lb Alpine SVX and G5 Montecs. I’ve taken 6 deer with them previously. Anyway this was late and when I looked for him this morning I couldn’t find him — it seemed a true “kill shot” — I looked for about 3 hours, but it’s real thick and he had places to go, but figured that the way he was moving he couldn’t have gone far. I’m sick to my stomach over it all. Any ideas just what I did wrong? I gave him about 45 minutes before I tried to look (not far) but again, it got dark.
Thanks

Billy T – November 12, 2009
Oh it was a broadside shot too — easy shot.

Jim – November 12, 2009
Well went out hunting tonight and shot nice wide 8 or 10pt. hit him mid way back and center. The arrow went in only 4″ and and found the arrow about 100 yards away. very little blood. What is the chance I killed the deer? We are going out tonight with a dog to try to find it.

Butch N – November 13, 2009
I went out thurs. didn get in to the woods till about 10:30am. Let me tell you the rut is on here in Franklin county Mo. Got my stand rapped around the tree at about 10:40. got up about 6ft and had a doe and a tall 8 come by. they cirlced twice then dissapeared. about 10:49. Still 6 ft in the tree he came back aloneat 12yds. Drew back shot it was about an inch to far back for me. let him go for about 3 hours started tracking good trail then it just stopped .gave up about 9pm. Will be back out today and tomorrow if I dont find him this morning

Teddy C. – November 13, 2009
Hit a big buck possibley in kidney from a 20 foot elevation, high and back hit. Could follow light blood for a 125 yards. Lost blood trail continued looking for a day and a half. What are the chances of the deer dying? Fast response please

Teddy C. – November 13, 2009
To the question before i justed wanted to add that i used a bow on the kidney hit.

Billy T – November 13, 2009
Your kidney shot should be a killer for sure Ted.

Billy T – November 13, 2009
If you got his intestines, he’ll die, but he could go real far if pushed. Is it real thick where you’ll be looking? Did you get a pass-through?

Teddy C. – November 13, 2009
Same amount of arrow was sticking out on both ends. The area is parshaly thick and parshaly open. The shoot was high, it looked like was 6-8 inches below th top of the top hair line; around 3 quarters back on the deer. After looking at the deer antomy, it looks like that would be the kidney. How about the blood trail. It fizzled out. What should i do?

Brian B – November 14, 2009
I got a good sized 4 point on the Tuesday the tenth, I was 15′ up surrounded by oak and hemlock. He came in at a 90% angle to me 25 yards out hit him a quarter inch below the back strap managed to hit a ling and liver and it came out the other side while he was running.
was using a DXT with the 2 blade rage,
problem i had was both blades cliped ribs and slowed it down so there was no blood trail and i managed to follow his tracks for aboud 50 yards, I found him out of pure luck right next to a path about 200 yards away, have yet to find the arrow.
I will say one thing for those rage broadheads they sure do make a big hole, i could almost fit my hand inside of it.
I refuse to take a shot if the head is facing in my direction and a side profile is a must. quartered shots are a little more tricky for new hunters and should be avoided, your best bet is to field dress a deer with somebody first so you know what it looks like inside and can predict what you will hit, this also helps you know more about shot placement from a stand

robert – November 14, 2009
Just shot a buck. Bow shot was straight down between the shoulder blades from 20 ft up. He took off with left leg flailing, maybe broken. Never found the arrow may be still in him. Got too dark to look. What are my chances that he’s dead?

Luke – November 15, 2009
Id say depending on your shot placement and penetration theres a real good posibility..I probally woulda waited for another shot but you probally hit quiet a few nerves to make the legs flailn like that…suprised you didnt hit the spine

Luke – November 15, 2009
Teddy C. To your question, from point of last blood do circles, I tracked a doe 1500+ yrds…never did find it…dont ask me how b/c i dunno…but i lost blood a few times and found it again by doing circles…once or twice pretty far away from last blood

Mixie – November 16, 2009
Chunkster…. always bend at the waist when shooting from above…this will help with high shots

justinwp – November 16, 2009
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DK – November 18, 2009
SHOT A DEER WITH BOW SIGNIFICANT BLOOD TRAIL BRIGHT PINK WITH LITTLE BUBBLE AND SOME DARK TRACKED FOR 1AND A HALF MILES WHILE DEER WAS WALKINK THEN LOST BLOOD AS HE CAME OUT OF CORN ESTIMATING 3 TO 4 PINTS OF BLOOD LOSS ANY IDEAS

DK – November 18, 2009
the deer in question bucked like a horse and bolted off like lightning after the shot can not find arrow

DK – November 18, 2009
dk needs response asap shot was made 3 days ago

D.J. – November 19, 2009
ALL YOU GUYS THAT CANT FIRGURE OUT WHERE THE ARROW WENT ! I,VE HUNTED FOR 22 YRS ANDSCHASED SEVERAL DEER FOR MILES LOTS OF MY THOUGHT GOES TO SHOT PLACEMENT AND LET THE DEER DO EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND READ THEM YOU WHOLE WAY IN!NOT FINDING AN ARROW IS BAD SHOT PLACEMENT!TAKE YOUR TIME THE DEER WHILE MOST LIKLY DO THE SAME. D.J

robbie – November 19, 2009
shot a monster 9 saturday the 14th,walked in at 7 yards and when i shot the cam on my bow hit the stand and made the arrow hit high about three fingers below the top of his back. never did find him. u think he died or is he still struttin around. no blood what so ever,broken arrow though,hes got 6 inches of arrow and a muzzy three blade in his back. can a buck die from a shot under the spine?

robbie – November 19, 2009
he kicked so hard he ran into a tree but looked for 8 1/2 hours and no sign of him anywhere. could he have circled back after running 100 yards in front of me? i hunt a small piece of property with a bean field on one side and 40 acres of timber on the other. i think i would have seen him.someone ease my mind.

trey g – November 20, 2009
i am 14 years old but i have been hunting with my bow for about 3 years now i shot a doe about 2 weeks ago but hit sholder and not much blood on the arrow so i wonded it and i am going hunting again tomarrow morning with my bow and i have been seeing 2 brother button bucks and this really bad 6 point has be gentics and i was wondering if i should shot the button bucks because the 6 point is the only buck thats been working the area should i kill them if they come out

Dennis – November 20, 2009
Trey, I wouldn’t shoot the button bucks! If they are in the area with no mother they will probably make that area home and remain there into maturity. As far as the six point is concerned, if you have never shot a buck and you would like to shoot him have at it! Chances are good that he is 18 months old and I would encourage you not to make a jugement call on genetic quality until a deer is 30 months old(2 1/2) years. There are many variables that could contribute to a buck being under developed as a year and a half old. But, I would certainly tell you to harvest him if you have yet to kill a buck!! Don’t ever let the pressure of other hunters pursuade you to thinking you need an excuse to shoot a buck. You should be very proud if you kill him!! There are not a lot of 15 year old young men in the woods anymore, ENJOY YOURSELF and make a quality shot. Good luck bud!

trey g – November 20, 2009
ya the 6 point for right now is about 18 mouths u r right but i dont think the gentics are good because really short g2 only about a inch and only one brow tine on the left horn with a little kicker off of it but thanks for about the button bucks

Zach – November 21, 2009
does anyones recommend a good broadhead i just the oldschool 4 blade they do good as well i just want to try other ones from what i have been reading the muzzys and rage arent so good or is that just from mechanical error on the rage or poor shot placement no offense to the ones who use them.

trey g – November 21, 2009
i use rage broadheads they r the best i have tryed shwaker they suck and muzzys arent that reat ethier try the rage 2 blade they have a huge cut they have a 2 1/2 inch cut they r the bust i have used try them

Zach – November 21, 2009
thanks i appreciate it how much do they run? i cant find nothin like that around where i live just sidewinders?

John M – November 21, 2009
Everyone needs to learn to slow down, pick a spot and follow through. Dont look to see the arrow hit the deer, dont shoot as soon as you see brown behind your pins. Draw, anchor, center your pins in the peep, put the pin on a small spot on the deers vitals and slowly squeeze the release and keep your arm straight and dont move until the deer is running. Watch the animal and wait. I have every anatomy chart ever made of the whitetail and the new deer $ deer hunting cd. I learned a few things over the last 20 years of bow hunting, and most people dont follow these simply rules. 1. practice with your broadheads only and from and elevated stand if that is how you hunt. Use only new sharp broadheads, dont rush take your time if you hit the deer in the heart and lungs it is going to die fast, anywhere else leave it over night and good luck. I have been there and done that so many times that I wont even take a shot unless it is absolutely perfect. I can now sleep at night and know that a deer that I could not shoot may be there the next time instead of having the mental anguish of making a bad shot and having to look for the deer I simply dont take a poor shot. Anyone can shoot at a deer, but only a bowhunter can shoot and kill a deer. Are you anyone or are you a bowhunter? Ps. indians killed animals with stone points if you shoot it in the right spot the type of broadhead should not matter. I use MUZZY 3 blade 100

Zach – November 21, 2009
you make a really good point john i try to be extremely careful in all those areas but sometimes life happens when it comes to hunting anything can happen the tiniest thing can screw up the hole hunt.

John M – November 21, 2009
I agree things do happen and I did not mean it to sound like I am the better bowhunter. I have spent way too many sleepless nights and days looking for deer that I rushed the shot on and i wanted to give guys examples of what they need to remember to do. There are no magical broadheads, but fixed blade do perform better than mechanicals, I have tried them all

Zach – November 21, 2009
i understand dude i wasnt inferring anything like that lol and i agree my fixed broadheads havent failed me yet and believe me i listen to more experienced hunters cuz im not goin to act like i no more than them thats how i learn all my traits is from guys like you.

Efren-11-21 – November 21, 2009
Hello everyone I like to comment on the broadhead issue that for the past 4 years of trying different mechanical broadheads I’ve lost more deer due to poor blood trails on good shots and I have to believe that is due to blades not opening, maybe bow to fast I don’t know.But I’m going back to what I know worked for me when I started the sport 25 years ago and thats fix blades.Don’t mess with simplicity of the sport.

Zach – November 22, 2009
i bought a pack of those crimson croc fixed broadheads and they shoot awesome fly great!

Efren – November 24, 2009
I’ll check them out THANKS Zach.

c.j – November 30, 2009
hi i shot a big doe to day with a 12 GA shotgun she drop and rolled around
got up and walked off.
i think i got her hight and about half way
back i think. i got deer fever and made a bad shot on her
the blood trail was good at first but about
100 yards it just stoped i could not find any more it got dark but i still looked some more but no luck do you think i will
find her

Brian S – December 02, 2009
John M has some excellent points. Another type of practice that really helps, is a life size deer target, and taking shots at it from different angles. This helps establish where you have to put the pin to make quartering shots. But the best advice is patience, letting the deer settle in before shooting, and practice, practice, and more practice. And if the deer doesn’t give you a shot that you are sure of, don’t take it.

walter giberson – December 03, 2009
shot a deer high behind shoulder the broadhead and 2 inches of arrow broke off in the deer couldnt find any blood except what was on arrow looked 4 hours didnt find it.you think it lived.

Ryan – December 04, 2009
I shot a big 8-point buck last weekend. After waiting 45 minutes my dad and I tracked a healthy trail of bright red blood for 700 yards. After two hours and 700 yards we lost a trail…we decided to resume our search first thing the next day. We took our black lab with us and he found the monster within 2 minutes! The best advice I can give is identify the blood trail you are following…if there is a lot of red blood, you have a deer that is going down. So give it time, dont rush it. Don’t be afraid to use a dog with a good nose…you’d be amazed how much easier it is for them to track your deer!

dan – December 10, 2009
i shot amonster buck a 200 class buck with my bow i have been watching this buck for a long time on camrea with my bow had a heavy blood trail hit it good tracked it for about 200 yard then it got to dark there was bright red blood do u think i got him

Doeman – December 15, 2009
I shot 2 deer this year I couldn’t find. The first I thought was perfect. I saw her go about 10yds and lay down. Then get up and walk away. There was blood from both sides for about 1/2 a mile. Then the blood stopped. No deer. Tonight I put an arrow what I thought was right behind the shoulder to find few drops for about 50 yds then none. I am here to study where to shoot a deer. I shot a doe the other day and the arrow went through the sweet spot and hit the opposite shoulder. She fell straight over and from the tree I watched her lay and spin for about 45mins until I couldn’t stand it any longer. I got down and put her out of her misery. I am aiming at nothing except double lung from now on. They only go 100 yds at the most.

scott – December 18, 2009
yes i shot a 8 point this evening probable 3 1/2 yrs old at 30yds i jumped forward making my shot hit square in the side of his butt. found blood all the way to edge of wood line wasn\’t alot but enough to where you could see it good. Gonna wait till morning to go and look. whats my chances of finding with shooting him in the rear.

scott – December 18, 2009
i was shooting a 3 blade rage 100 grain also
jordan – December 19, 2009
70# hoyt, maxima arrows, 100 gr. muzzy 3 blades. I shot a small buck this afternoon broadside in the shoulder, bad shot. My arrow broke and i found two pieces on the ground, the fletching piece and another 2 inch segment. No blood at all. and no main arrow shaft. I feel terrible and would like to know if a deer will survive a double shoulder shot

BILL E – December 21, 2009
AN AWFUL LOT OF DEAD DEER FOR THE COYOTES TO FEED ON. YA ALL NEED TO TAKE YOUR TIME BEFORE THE SHOT THAN TAKE YOUR TIME AFTER.MAYBE YOU CAN BLAME THE EQUITMENT BY MOST OF THE TIME ITS THE SHOOTER.IM AFRAID TO SAY THAT IF YOU DO NOT FIND BLOOD YOU MISSED IT.OR GUT SHOT TRY USING DOG TO LOOK OR TAKE UP BOWLING

BILL E – December 21, 2009
SCOTT WHY WOULD YOU JUMP FORWARD AND SHOOT THE DEER IN THE ASS?

trey g – December 24, 2009
i am with bill y would u do that.just let the shot come to u that is unethicly

Erik – December 29, 2009
It seems a lot of people on here hurry to make the shot…maybe you are too excited or too new to the sport…who knows…slow down and BREATHE. Line your pin up and be sure of your shot. Dont just take the shot and hope for the best…know your placement. I dont know why you would ever shoot a deer in the hindquarter but I think maybe you shouldnt be hunting at all.

Stephen C – January 08, 2010
I shot a 125″ class 8 pointer last night and hit him high and a bit forward. My arrow got about 7″ of penetration (went through the sholderblade) that he took with him. He broke off the arrow after he turned and started to run. It was 9 degrees, deer at 20 yards, with 4 inches of fresh snow on the ground. I slipped out of my stand after I watched him crest a ridgetop and figured I’d be able to get him this morning. I tracked him in the snow. Some spots of blood but nothing to be too concerned about with such a high hit. Easy to track becuase he wasn’t using his front left leg and was dragging it in the snow. I found 4 different sights where he bedded down within 200 yards of the shot and you could even see that he layed his head in the snow. Creeping through the woods I saw him 60 yards in front of me with his head down. I took one more step and he lifted his head, got up and trotted off on 3 legs. I’m going to give him another 24 hrs but it isn’t looking good. I’ll be able to see his tracks in the snow but am not very hopeful of finding him. I took my time on the shot but feel that I may have flinched. Parker 31 ultra light, easton carbon arrows, muzzy 3 blade 100 grain. First one I’ve ever done this to in 15 years of hunting…

brad – January 11, 2010
hey guys you need to use the crimpson talon broadheads my friend shot a deer and the bloodtrail was unbelieveable it literally looked like someone was walking with a gallon jug of blood dumping it on the ground im def gonna use them next season!!!!

david – March 15, 2010
Stephen C…don’t know if you’ll come back to this site but I sure hope that you found your deer. Your high, forward hit probably broke either the leg on the impact side or the one one on the other. You did exactly right by leaving the deer overnight. Sometimes you have to make the judgement to push a deer like this and keep the wound bleeding. You can, and I have, worn down a wounded animal like this. When I jumped him the 2nd day and he took off, I probably would have stayed on him.

maeve francis – April 19, 2010
cool

sarah – May 10, 2010
my dad shot a 9 poniter a year ago

sarah – May 10, 2010
I am a girl.And i like hunting

sarah – May 10, 2010
hi camoprincess just think about how proud your mom or dad will be.

Troy – May 18, 2010
I love to go deer hunting every saturday and it is a really fun sport to do.
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2010-05-19 – Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #17 – El Paso / San antonio, TX


2010-05-19

Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #17

Hueco Tanks Historical State Park, El Paso, TX / San Antonio, TX

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My [Homo Sapiens! SAVE YOUR EARTH!] potluck speech yesterday achieved yet a higher level of inspiration for both the audience and myself. As I progress from speech to speech on this tour, the speeches themselves evolve progressively from a doomsday prophesy to a new world vision based on my concept of Integrative Transcendence, and the worldview of the audience changes from dark despair to faint hope, albeit still laced with a heavy dose of dread, which will not and should not dissipate.

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The venue was the magnificent Joske Pavilion in the Brackenridge Park in San Antonio, chosen and well-hosted by Kaz Sephton of the San Antonio Vegetarian Society. The audience as usually is of high quality, comprising two space physicists, an opera singer, a physician, and many leading activists in the San Antonio area.

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During the Q&A, a question was “What can we do?” My new answer is to think big, think outside the box, change the law, revolutionize society and unify the world. Notable is a boy of about 8 years of age, who said that he would speak to his class about saving the planet via a plant-based diet, to whom I taught the term “protein conversion ratio”, which basically means that it required 20 pounds of plant protein to produce one pound of meat protein, which in turn means that a plant-based diet can feed 20 times more people than a meat-based diet.

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After the event, a late comer arrived, a very tall young man who said that he knew he would miss my speech, but still decided to come and meet me. I gave him a few minutes of latent heat information, and he wanted to maintain contact to receive the rest.

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Thanks again, Kaz, for your hospitality and for organizing this very successful speaking event.

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Campaign touring for Mother Earth is not all work. One great pleasure is that I get to see her up close where she is at her most exquisite. The following series of photographs, which I’m hard pressed to shorten due to the unique beauty of each picture, is the fruit of a nature walk led by my gracious El Paso host Susan P yesterday morning before my long drive to San Antonio. It is of the Hueco Tanks Historical State Park about 10 miles north of El Paso, showing stunning rock formations resulting from the age-old erosion of limestone leaving behind the harder and tougher granite, on which can be found ancient hieroglyphs easily 10,000 years old left behind by the paleo-inhabitants, and more recent graffiti some dating back to the 1800s. Amidst all this grandeur, however, are disturbing hints of modern cultural primitivism where crude 21th century graffiti is written right on top of the ancient pictographs, albeit with heavy fines if the offenders are caught. But all in all, it was an exhilarating morning which carried through into the afternoon drive and the evening speech, and perhaps the rest of my life when I will be serving Mother Earth and all her sentient creatures.

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The drive from El Paso to San Antonio was nothing short of spectacular. Shortly after passing Fort Stockton, I drove past a vast wind farm on the left that spanned many miles. At one point there was a juxtaposition of old oil rigs and new wind turbines, which struck me to be almost poetic.

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Somewhere along the 10 hour drive, the highway was blocked by a border patrol check point. As often is the case, while other vehicles were briefly questioned and let pass, the Green Hornet was ordered to pull over for inspection, which involved my being ordered to hand over my passport and get out of the car, guarded by four armed agents, asked if I was carrying a weapon myself, and questioned about my purpose for being in Texas. At one point, when I casually stuck my hands into my pockets, I was told sternly to pull them back out. Meanwhile, a police-dog sniffed all over the exterior and interior of the car, and jumping into the trunk for more sniffing. When they finally told me I could go, I snap a picture as a souvenir, which was probably a no-no, but, heck, I had to defy something.

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Farther down I-10, while cruising along at 80+ mph (speed limit being 80 mph), I was struck by a sudden heavy thunder-hail-rain storm, when at one yard the surface was bone dry, and several yards farther on, it had an inch of water, which sent the Green Hornet hydroplaning until I slow it down to 60 mph – without using the brakes. Thereupon, hail stones pelted the roof and windshield for miles. After the storm had eased but not quite ceased, I was treated to a sustained light show of lightning in every direction all the way to the door steps of Kaz in San Antonio.

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2010-05-16 – Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #16 – Albuquerque NM & El Paso TX


2010-05-16

Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #16

Albuquerque NM –> El Paso TX

Both my global warming speeches in Albuquerque yesterday evening and in El Paso this afternoon have risen on to a higher plane than those before. I have incorporated a long term solution to the global ecological crisis as an integral part of my “doomsday prophet” presentation, giving it a positive conclusion, with a bright light at the end of the long dark tunnel. It is Integrative Transcendence. (see below.)

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Adriana and her dog.

Thanks are due to Mikki of Albuquerque (last name concealed as a rule for security reasons) for her hospitality in offering me free lodging, who wrote me today that her dog Professor was missing me already, and to Adriana for hosting the Albuquerque event yesterday evening, who introduced my [Homo Sapiens! SAVE YOUR EARTH!] talk, assuring a woman in the audience who said that she had known about global warming that what I had to say, no one had heard before.

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Mikki on upper left, Adriana on upper right.

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Hunter mom giving me dirty look.

Today, I drove from Albuquerque NM to El Paso TX arriving at my host Susan’s amazing rural property by 1:30 pm. Near the NM/TX border, in southern New Mexico, I encountered two large cattle factory farming operations, where I could almost smell the potent greenhouse gas methane emitted unrestrained into the atmosphere.

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Susan was from British Columbia herself, and was thrilled to see my BC license plate when she was letting me through the gate of her property in company of her dogs. And I was thrilled to see Richard and Suki Sargent among the guests, both of whom I met back in 2004 in my first Compassion for Animals Road Expedition (CARE-1) conducted with Brenda Davis and her then 15 year-old son Cory Davis, and who offered us the hospitality of their magnificent home, complete with a “cat house”.

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Dog paw prints on my chest – a definite sign of welcome.

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Suki Sargent and friends.

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With a very progressive young lady from India.

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Suki introducing my talk.

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Susan on far left, Richard Sargent front left.

Tomorrow, Susan will take me for a visit to Hueco Tanks Historical State Park to see its ancient artifacts, after which I will take the 10 hour drive to San Antonio for the May 18 event hosted by Kaz.

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Anthony Marr’s Green Hornet lecturing the other cars.

It is about time I should present something about Integrative Transcendence in this blog. Following is an excerpt from Chapter 1 of my second book [Homo Sapiens! SAVE YOUR EARTH!”, whose title is the same as my lecture. It depicts a conversation between Raminothna, an extra-terrestrial intelligence, and myself, when I was sitting on a mountain-top, gazing at the moon:

Raminothna: “I wish I could come and sit with you,” the voice said to me.
 
I: “Why can’t you?”
 
R: “By the physical laws, I can; by the social laws, I cannot.”
 
I: “Why not?”
 
R: “Interstellar Non-Interference Principle.”
 
I: “Who are you?”

R: “I am Raminothna, the fortunate and the called upon, at your service.”
 
I: “Okay, let me rephrase. What are you?”
 
R:  Normally, what one is towers over what one says, but in our case, to you, what I say is more important than what I am. 
 
I:  Still, it does not mean that what you are is not important. So, again, what are you?
 
R:  When you can tell me what you are, you will know what I am.
 
I:  What am I? Another age-old question. I don’t suppose it helps for me to say that I’m human.
 
R:  Not particularly. It is about the same as an ant saying to you, “I’m an ant,” if the ant does not understand what an ant is. Conversely, it makes no sense to the ant if you tell it what a human is. 
 
I:  But if I tell you that my species is the one responsible for driving this planet to runaway global heating, you might be able to tell me, for example, that you are an interstellar planet saver, or savior, here to save the Earth for us.”
 
R:  This is a sharp argument. But, no, I am not a planet saver, nor a savior.
 
I:  Then why are you here?
 
R:  To observe, to understand, to analyze, to evaluate, to report, and, where you are concerned, to advise, and, if the worse came to worst, to stay with you so that your demise would at least not be too lonely.
 
I:  To advise is the best you can do for us?
 
R:  The best anyone not of your planet can do for you, due to the interstellar non-interference protocol.
 
I:  Why can’t you just give us the blueprint for a perpetual motion machine? All problems would be solved.
 
R:  But for three things. One, the solution then would not be yours. Two, knowing your species, you would wage war with it as much as or even more so than wage peace. And three, evading the test is equal to failing it.
 
I:  Test? What test?
 
R:  The cosmic test that all intelligent and technological species sooner or later have to take.
 
I:  Again, what test? Whether or not we can survive ourselves?
 
R:  To begin with.
 
I:  What else?
 
R:  Whether you can save your planet from mass extinction due to global warming, as you yourself have been trying to do, because if only you survive while 20 million species die because of you, you will just go elsewhere in the universe to rape, pillage, plunder and murder.
 
I:  Tall order, especially considering the corner we have painted ourselves into, or should I say the mess we have made in every corner of the world.
 
R:  Tough test, no question. 
 
I:  But why? Why do we have to be tested at all. Why can’t we just live happily ever after?
 
R:  First, because this is not a fairy tale. Second, because your world is finite, as are your needs, but not your wants. Sooner or later demand will exceed supply, and the environment will be irreparably overwhelmed.
 
I:  The overwhelming has in fact begun.
 
R:  Thus, your cosmic test. But do not take it personally. This happens on every planet with intelligence and civilization at one critical point in its life, to whatever galaxy it may belong.
 
I:  So, some make it and some don’t?
 
R:  Yes.
 
I:  And you won’t lift a finger to save those who fail?
 
R:  That is a pretty cold way of saying something that has to be.
 
I:  According to whom?
 
R:  The interstellar non-interference protocol.
 
I:  Based upon what? Some kind of cosmic law?
 
R:  Simply: Let those that are destructive commit self-destruction, and let those that are constructive construct their own stellar and interstellar future. 
 
I:  Even if the destructive are beautiful and lovable?
 
R:  Are you referring to yourselves?
 
I:  Well, yes and no. We can be very ugly and despicable, too.
 
R:  So my answer is: Yes.
 
I:  What is the percentage of passes and failures?
 
R:  I cannot tell you this either.
 
I:  Why not?
 
R:  If the success rate was high, you would slack off. If low, you might lose confidence in yourself. It is best just to do your best.
 
I:  Do you want us to fail, or do you want us to pass?
 
R:  Here is an analogy. In the incubation room are 1 million eggs. Some will not hatch.  Of course the caretaker would want as many eggs to hatch as possible.
 
I:  But you won’t do anything to help those eggs you know won’t hatch?
 
R:  Is this a trick question?
 
I:  In what sense can it be a trick question?
 
R:  If I said, no, I will not help those I know will not hatch, then you would say that since I am here to help, your “egg” will hatch.
 
I:  I’m not as intelligent as I look.
 
R:  Alright, I will say this. If I knew that a planet is beyond help, I would devote my time and energy to another that has a chance.
 
I:  So, this planet Earth here has a chance?
 
R:  I am here, am I not?
 
I:  What kind of a chance? As I said, runaway global heating has begun, and it can only get worse, exponentially, until all the forests dry to desert, all the oceans become an acid bath, and the entire biosphere turns to dust. If allowed to run its course, runaway global heating won’t end until all the methane clathrates have been released from the permafrost and the ocean floor. Where there are 700 gigatons of carbon in the atmosphere today, there will be 12,000 gigatons then. Where the concentration is 385 parts per million of carbon in the atmosphere today, it will be almost 6,000 parts per million. The Earth will become a second Venus with the atmospheric temperature in the hundreds of degrees.  No life can exist under those conditions, not even heat resistant and sulfur loving bacteria. If the mere 0.6 degrees Celsius (1 degree Fahrenheit) global temperature rise today since the pre-industrial times is enough to begin melting the permafrost, which releases vast quantities of methane (see HYPERLINK “http://www.hope-care.org/” \t “_blank” http://www.HOPE-CARE.org , global warming section, Arctic subsection), what is there to stop permafrost melting at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 degrees warmer than today? The methane-caused global heating will feedback upon itself, and the cycle will become a spiral to oblivion. As long as global warming reigns there is no such thing as stabilization at any temperature because methane release is beyond our control.  And our citizens of profit, our corporations of greed and our governments of corruption will make damn sure that will happen.
 
R:  Where is the second part of your sentence?
 
I:  What second part?
 
R:  The positive part. 
 
I:  Is there a positive part?
 
R:  In everything is a positive part. Even the blood-sucking mosquito is food for fish and birds.
 
I:  So, what is the positive part about humankind? I see nothing. Life on Earth would do much better without our species screwing things up left, right and center.
 
R:  For a time.
 
I:  What do you mean “for a time”?
 
R:  Until the next asteroid came crashing down.  
 
I:  A replay of this planet’s fifth major mass extinction bout, the one that wiped out all the dinosaurs. 
 
R:  Imagine T-Rex being able to fire a rocket with a nuclear bomb to deflect that asteroid’s trajectory.
 
I:  Incredible.
 
R: If this happened today, most major species, including tigers, eagles, dolphins, whales… would be wiped out like the dinosaurs. Imagine the rhesus monkeys firing a rocket with a nuclear bomb to deflect this asteroid’s course.
 
I:  Equally incredible, not even the chimpanzees can do that. 
 
R:  How about the human primates then? 
 
I:  I see what you mean. 
 
R:  You have discovered that your planet has experienced five major mass extinction bouts in the geologic past, only one of which, the fifth, was caused by an asteroid strike.  The other four were caused by climate change. Which was the worst?
 
I:  The third, the End-Permian Mass Extinction 251 million years ago, wiped out 75% of all land species and 95% of all marine species. 
 
R:  Obviously climate change is at least as potent as a huge asteroid strike in terms of killing power.
 
I:  Haven’t thought of it that way.
 
R:  So my question remains: What is the technological primate going to do about this anthropogenic round of climate change?
 
I:  I think our silver bullet, in terms of technology, is atmospheric Carbon Capture and Sequestration (CCS), in combination with non-combustion energy technologies including solar, wind, geothermal, tidal and wave power. 
 
R:  These trillion-dollar-ventures could work, but how do you intend to fund them?
 
I:  I have launched an online petition at HYPERLINK “http://www.thepetitionsite.com/” \t “_blank” http://www.thepetitionsite.com addressed to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, asking him to orchestrate the formation of a $120-billion-per-year Global Green Fund for such projects, by means of a 10% across-the-board reduction of the $1.2 trillion global military expenditure.
 
R:  I wish you success. But would technology alone suffice?
 
I:  No. We need a social and economic reform, some say revolution, as a means of adapting to the new environment imposed by global warming.
 
R:  What kind of revolution? 
 
I:  A friend of mind calls it “Re-Evolution.” And another friend calls it “E-Revolution.”  One way or another, things have got to change, and change fundamentally.
 
R:  Such as?
 
I:  Socially speaking, greed and selfishness should be replaced by altruism and unconditional giving and sharing. Economically, the silver standard, the gold standard, even the money standard itself, should be replaced by a moral standard based on awareness of facts, knowledge of truth, reverence for nature, compassion for animals, love for the planet, responsibility to our children and all life on Earth, and a higher self-determined destiny.
 
R:  And what is this destiny?
 
I:  I have no idea.
 
R:  If you do not know your destination, and you travel, what do you become?
 
I:  A drifter.
 
R:  What is the purpose of a drifter?
 
I:  None.
 
R:  What is the purpose of the human species?
 
I:  According to whom?
 
R:  Humans.
 
I:  Our species as a whole? Up to now, none. The best we’ve come up with is some kind of philosophical or religious Utopia that is all theory and no substance, and where some scenarios could actually lead our species into hell.
 
R:  So, your species is a drifter?
 
I:  Up to now, at best. I do think that we need a beautiful destination to strive for. A worthy destiny to fulfill. A compelling vision of what we’re trying to create.
 
R:  So, where are they? What are they?
 
I:  I don’t know.
 
R:  If you have no destination; what about a path, the right way that can lead you to the best destination, wherever it be?
 
I:  “Path” in Chinese is “Tao.” The Chinese advanced Taoism a few hundred hears before Christ, in which context “Tao” means “Way of the Cosmos.” The Tao Teh Ching says, “In the Cosmos, Man should accord his way to the Earth, the Earth to the sky, the sky to the Tao, and the Tao simply is, according to its own nature.”  So, if we follow this Way of the Cosmic, we should arrive at the right destination, wherever it be.
 
R:  So, what is this Way of the Cosmos, this Tao?
 
I:  Unfortunately, the Tao Teh Ching also says, “The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao.”
 
R:  So, there is a path, but you can never tell where it is?
 
I:  That’s about right.
 
R:  So, what good is this system of thought?
 
I:  So far, no good, and Taoism has since degenerated from a school of philosophy into a house of sorcery.
 
R:  What if this Tao can be known, and spoken?
 
I:  Then it would be truly enlightening, and perhaps even planet-saving. Why? Can it?
 
R:  First thing to note: With the unknown, never say “Can’t.”
 
I:  So, Lao Tzu was wrong, to say that the Tao cannot be spoken?
 
R:  You can answer this for yourself, after you have spoken it.
 
I:  Me? To speak the Unspeakable? Hold on for a second there. I’m not a miracle worker. I cannot conceive the inconceivable, and do the undoable. 
 
R:  You can, and you will, before the night is out.
 
I:  You’re kidding me. More than two thousand years without an answer, and I could do it within five hours?
 
R:  Maybe within the hour, if you perform optimally.
 
I:  Well, we’d better get started ASAP then, eh?
 
R:  Immediately-or-sooner always suits me fine.
 
I:  So, give me a kickstart.
 
R:  Tell me. Have you heard of the “Superorganism”?
 
I:  Yes. It was a term first coined by social insect researcher, Morton Wheeler, in 1937, referring to an insect society – of social insects like wasps, ants, bees and termites – as a single living organism of a higher order, or level of organization, that is, society as organism. But since the constituent individual insects of an insect society are themselves organisms, Wheeler dubbed an insect society a “superorganism.” Edward O. Wilson, a pioneer in sociobiology, defines the superorganism as “a collection of single creatures that together possess the functional organization implicit in the formal definition of organism.”
 
R:  Do you see any repetitive pattern yet?
 
I:  Repetitive pattern? No. What repetitive pattern? What for?
 
R:  For finding the Path, the Way of the Cosmos, the Universal Masterplan, the Tao. To know the future by knowing the past.
 
I:  Well, not yet.
 
R:  What is that to your left? 
 
I:  It looks like an anthill.
 
R:  What is in the anthill?
 
I:  One this size would contain upwards of hundreds of thousands of ants, which are differentiated into several castes – the queen, the major workers, the minor workers, the seasonal winged reproductives called alates, and the soldiers – which then cooperate as a functioning whole.
 
R:  What is an ant a society of?
 
I:  An ant? I’m not sure what you mean. It is a social insect, and we have established that an ant society, such as this anthill, is a superorganism.
 
R:  Yes, but what is an ant a society of?
 
I:  Are you saying that an individual ant is a society itself?
 
R:  Is it not?

I:  Well, if an individual ant is a society, then it would be a society of its own body cells.
 
R:  How can this happen? 
 
I:  I think in much the same way as how the ants form their society – by differentiation and cooperation. 
 
R:  Give me some specifics. When did it happen?
 
I:  Before about 600 million years ago, there were no metabions (multicellular organisms). Only undifferentiated cells, each living a private life of its own. But eventually, inevitably, by the principle of differentiation and cooperation, cells developed sociality, and formed their own cellular societies, at first like sponges and corals, but eventually centrally organized cellular societies like a dragonfly or an ant, or a bird, or even a human. 
 
R:  So, the individual cells had to give up some of their small freedoms for this transcendent integration. What benefits could there be?
 
I:  “Transcendent Integration,” I like that. The benefits were huge. An amoeba, an undifferentiated organism, can crawl on the bottom of a pond at, say, a foot a day top-speed non-stop. But differentiated and cooperative cells, by collectively becoming a higher organism like a dragonfly, which lays its eggs into the pond, attain a quantum leap of power and a higher level of freedom. The cells of a dragonfly, for example, lost their small freedom of individual amoeba-like movements, but together, their society – the dragonfly – can fly over the mountain at 50 miles per hour, when the amoeba cannot even perceive beyond the confines of the pond, much less emerge from it on its own.
 
R:  So, have you seen any repetitive pattern yet?
 
I:  Beginning to. One – organism as society on all levels of organization. Two – society as organism on all levels. Three, social and nonsocial units on all levels. Four, differentiation and cooperation on all levels.
 
R: Excellent. Now, what is a cell a society of?
 
I:  Its own molecules, I think. Each cell is a society of its own “social molecules.” Each also operates by the principle of differentiation and cooperation.
 
R:  And the molecules? 
 
I:  Each a society of “social quarks”?
 
R:  Now, look at Vancouver .
 
I:  I’m looking at it.
 
R:  What is a city in this scheme of things?
 
I:  A city is like a human equivalent of an anthill or a bee hive, or a wasp net, or a termite mound.
 
R:  So, what is Vancouver ?
 
I:  Vancouver is a superorganism of differentiated and cooperative Vancouverites, which are social humans.
 
R:  Is Vancouver as an organism social or nonsocial.
 
I:  I would consider Vancouver a social organism, in terms of its relation to other Canadian cities.
 
R:  What is the society to which Vancouver belongs?
 
I:  Canada .
 
R:  And what is Canada in this scheme of things?
 
I:  Canada is a superorganism comprising all differentiated and cooperative Canadian cities.
 
R:  As an organism, is Canada social or nonsocial?
 
I:  Social, kind of.
 
R:  Kind of?
 
I:  Because although the nations are beginning to be social amongst one another, they have not yet formed themselves a higher organism. There is still conflict and warfare, and international relations are still more competitive than cooperative. Most definitive of all, the nations still uphold their sovereignty as supreme. So, I would deem the rise of life on Earth currently reaching the level of the nations as organisms, but no higher, yet.
 
R:  When the integration of the nations is complete, what will the result be?
 
I:  I think this will mean the rise of a higher level or organization than the national level, and the emergence of a superorganism composed of differentiated and cooperative nations – the planet Earth herself as an organism, to whom the various nations are her various planetary organs, if they continue to identify themselves as nations, that is.
 
R:  What about the military?
 
I:  Just as there is no mutual defense system amongst the organs of the same organism, there will be no mutual defense systems amongst the transcendently integrated nations of the planet Earth.
 
R:  What will happen to the current military forces of the nations then?
 
I:  I think the multinational military forces of today will merge into a single planetary defense force against external threats such as asteroids, and perhaps alien invasions.
 
R:  Alien invasions, à la the War of the Worlds? Listen, if we wanted to invade you or conquer your planet, we would have done so thousands of years ago, effortlessly.
 
I:  This system of reality looks like a fine blueprint for world peace.
 
R:  It also illustrates our Interstellar Nursery of Planetary Eggs.
 
I:  Planet as egg. An interesting metaphor.
 
R:  Not metaphorical. Literal.
 
I:  A planet is literally an egg? 
 
R:  With a gestation period and a metamorphic schedule.
 
I:  Really?
 
R:  Tell me. What is the gestation period of the Geo-Embryo Earth?
 
I:  The Geo-Embryo? 
 
R:  What do you think it is?
 
I:  The Biosphere?
 
R:  And what is the gestation period of the Geo-Embryo of the planet Earth?
 
I:  Are you saying that the timing of the current crisis is predetermined? 
 
R:  Based upon its initial physical properties when it was first formed, every planet capable of supporting life and civilization has its own predetermined gestation period, yes, including the planet Earth.
 
I:  Cosmic Egg Earth’s gestation period? I don’t know. 
 
R:  When was it formed?
 
I:  4.6 billion years ago. 
 
R:  If it succeeds in its Integrative Transcendence, when would it happen? 
 
I:  Within the next century or two I suspect. 
 
R:  Then Cosmic Egg Earth’s gestation period is?
 
I:  4.6 billion years!
 
R:  Good. Now, some embryos go through several stages of metamorphosis. Do you see this in the Geo-Embryo of the planet Earth? 
 
I:  I now certainly do. Every time a new level emerges from a lower one, it is a new stage of metamorphosis. So, since the Earth has the Molecular level, and the Cellular level, and the Metabion level (multicellular organisms) and the Tribal level (animal societies and human tribal cultures), and the City level, and the National level, and finally the Planetary level, all in all there are seven levels of organization and six phases of metamorphosis in between.
 
R:  Is there a metamorphic schedule?
 
I:  This would be the time table of the different levels emerging from the one beneath it. So, we should start with the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago as the time of the formation of atomic and molecular matter from the quarks below. Second, the Cellular level arose on Earth about 3 billion years ago. Third, the Metabion level arose about 600 million years ago. Fourth, the Tribal level arose in the form of the first insect societies, I’d say 120 million years ago. Fifth, the National level, I would think not of humans, but of whales and dolphins. It would be cetacean super-societies, comprising many constituent family pods, over a large oceanic area. The cetaceans evolved from land animals about 16 million years ago. So these super-societies may have formed 10 million years ago. And sixth, the Planetary level, which should emerge about now, if it succeeds in doing so.
 
R:  Form a series with these numbers.
 
I:  0, 10 million, 120 million, 600 million, 3 billion, 13.7 billion.
 
R:  What does this series look to you?
 
I:  I think it could look like an exponential series, but we need to know the true zero point, which I doubt would be set at the time of the “organismization” of the planet Earth. It might be the point of the Integrative Transcendence of the Universe Itself.
 
R:  What will happen to Earth after she has succeeded in integratively transcending into being a Planetary Organism?
 
I:  By the now very obvious repetitive pattern, the Planetary Organism Earth will at first be nonsocial. But given time, it will reproduce, and begat offspring throughout the Solar System, which will eventually become social amongst one another, and again by means of Integrative Transcendence, ultimately forming the Stellar Organism Sol, on yet a higher Stellar level of organization.
 
R:  What after that?
 
I:  There are upwards of 100 billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy, of which Sol is only one. I think this spiral can unfold about three times within the galaxy before reaching the eventual formation of the Galactic Organism Milky Way.
 
R:  And after that?
 
I:  There are upwards of 100 billion galaxies in the Universe, of which Milky Way is only one. I think this spiral can unfold about three times in the intergalactic realm as well before reaching the emergence of the ultimate Universal Organism. 
 
R:  If you were to choose 3 words for this Universal Organism, what would they be?
 
I:  Oh my God!
 
R:  Are these the three words?
 
I:  No!
 
R:  What is God?
 
I:  God is believed by the vast majority of this democracy to be the creator of the Universe. 
 
R:  God is a matter of religion. The religion by which you have been indoctrinated is Catholic. So what three words do the Catholics use to describe God?
 
I:  Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent.
 
R:  And what three words would you use to describe the Universal Organism?
 
I:  Since it embraces the entire Universe, it will be all present. Since it encompasses all the knowledge of all the civilizations within it, it can be said to be all knowing. And since an amoeba and a human are only one level of organization apart, noting the quantum leap in power between the two, and since the Universal Organism is a good 10 levels above the individual human, it can be said to be all powerful. Thus, the three words for the Universal Organism could only be Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent!!!
 
R:  Are there any differences between the Universal Organism and your God?
 
I:  Well, yes. One, It did not create the Universe, but it is the evolving Universe. Two, It did not create us; instead, we will be part and parcel of its own self-creation. And three, there is nothing supernatural about this Godly being; It is all natural.
 
R:  And how would you name such a worldview?
 
I:  This worldview encompasses the entire Cosmos, and is based on all fields of science, so I would call it the Omniscientific Cosmology.
 
R:  And what would the central teaching of the Omniscientific Cosmology be?
 
I:  The Tao spoken.
 
R:  So speak it, Homo Sapiens of Earth, speak the “Unspeakable.”
 
I:  Integrative Transcendence.

R: And how can you apply Integrative Transcendence to save your planet Earth from its current global ecological crisis?

I: Since with every higher level of Integrative Transcendence comes a quantum leap in power, the integrative transcendence of the national organisms into the one and only Planetary Organism Earth will likewise produce a quantum leap in power, with which the Planetary Organism Earth can save itself.
 
R:  Amen.

Anthony Marr, Founder and President
Heal Our Planet Earth (HOPE)
Global Anti-Hunting Coalition (GAHC)
Anthony-Marr@HOPE-CARE.org
http://www.HOPE-CARE.org
http://www.MySpace.com/AnthonyMarr
http://www.YouTube.com/AnthonyMarr
http://www.myspace.com/Anti-Hunting_Coalition
http://www.facebook.com/Anthony.Marr.001
http://www.facebook.com/Global_Anti-Hunting_Coalition
http://www.HomoSapiensSaveYourEarth.blogspot.com
http://www.facebook.com (search for “Anthony Marr Heal Our Planet Earth”)
http://www.ARConference.org
 

2010-05-14 – Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #15 – AZ –> NM


2010-05-14

Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #15

Arizona – New Mexico

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Approaching Albuquerque

After a 10 hour drive from Phoenix, Arizona, I’m now in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It could have been a couple of hours shorter, but I took my time. When I arrived at Mikkey’s place around 8 pm, it was blowing up a storm, and downright chilly, but now, it is still and warm.

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Michelle Andria with 3 foster kittens

The last week or so at the Andrias has bonded me to the family. By the last day, Chris had whipped me in every Risk game, but I checkmated him in the last game of Chess. These alone had made us new brothers, but on top of this he initiated a discussion with me on global warming, which in fact I had stay away from. But since he brought it up, I showed him an article from NASA titled “The Arctic summer could be ice-free by 2013”. He took it in, and we discussed a little about latent heat. Though he may not be totally convinced, I felt that his mind has opened, which proved gratifying to me. When I told Michelle about it, she seemed amazed. Later in the evening, Chris brought in his 7 year-old daughter Serena, who took to me at once.

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Yesterday morning, before she went to school, about an hour before my own departure, she gave me not one, not two, but four rounds of hugs. When I told Nicholas that Chris have become my new brother, Michelle said he could now call me Uncle Tony. It is an extra privilege to be accepted by children. Hugs all around before the farewell.

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Cheena of Tucson

May 10th, in Tucson, Cheena treated me to a sumptuous vegan dinner where I met Cindy Wines of “Free The Elephants”, with whom I “shared cake”, and who made some connections for me in Baton Rouge regarding Tony the Tiger for when I drive through on my way to New Orleans on May 24th, and contacted the Big Cat Rescue people in Tampa FL for June 5th. At the end of the dinner, a man came out from nowhere and said, “Mr. Marr, let me shake your hand.” We took a couple of pics together, and he was gone. To this day, I cannot remember who he is.

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Cindy Wines on right

May 13, I had dinner with Jan McClellan, the lady who organized the Phoenix funeral motorcade, and learned that she was the lead singer and lead guitarist of the 60s/70s all-female band The Debutantes, which went to Vietnam to entertain the troops, and got their passports kept away by the rascal of an organizer – for 6 months – so that they could entertain to his heart’s content. All these talents I’ve discovered on this tour, including Catherine Garneau, who also used to be a band singer and guitarist. Good thing I too used to play in a rock band (“Beyond Nemesis”) in the late-60s/early-70s when I was a UBC student (lead guitar, rhythm guitar, back-up vocals, clarinet, some keyboard), or I’d feel totally out-classed.

On May 11, on the internet, our “band of brothers and sisters”, which includes Marla, Anthony D, Catherine, Paul Fusch, Tia and myself, hammered out a plan to March on Washington on July 19 right after the Animal Rights Conference. At first, I thought that it was towards passing bill HR 5092 only, which proposes banning crush videos while specifically exempting hunting videos. So, I wrote them an email as follows:

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Cacti on way out of Phoenix, their middle fingers are for hunters

May 11, 2010

Dear all:

This is shared just with a few trusted friends for now. I’m writing on my own behalf, as well as that of the Global Anti-Hunting Coalition as its president. The primary purpose of this letter is to share my view. It is not a request, much less demand, that anyone should adopt it.

My dear friend Marla Stormwolf-Patty may recall that I confided in her a few days ago in a personal email that I was wrestling with a moral dilemma, about the outcome of which she may not be pleased. But I have done this wrestling for long enough. Now, the thread originated by the brilliant post by my dear friend Paul Fusch titled “Drink, blast off or march – pick one”, whose spirit of unity is exemplary, has forced the following conclusion:

As you all do, I abhor crush videos, and I will do anything within my power and conscience to assist in banning them; this goes without saying. On the other hand, I find hunting videos equally abhorrent. I do not find a video depicting a deer shot by an arrow in the eye or the gut or the rump or even accurately in the chest, or have its lower jaw blown off by a bullet, to be any more acceptable than a video depicting a kitten crushed by a bare foot or pierced by the heel of a stiletto pump, regardless of the legality of hunting. In fact, legality to me is subservient to morality, and therefore, I cannot accept, morally or legally, a law that specifically exempts hunting videos, which essentially condones hunting. This is the only position for the leadership of GAHC to take, if GAHC is to be strong, powerful and true to its founding principle. GAHC is a hard line anti-hunting coalition answerable to all anti-hunting member groups and individuals worldwide.

Right now I’m in Arizona on my tour, and the newly signed up GAHC members have asked me to return in October to assist in winning a ballot slated for November 8 which will decide on whether hunting should be entrenched in Arizona as a constitutional right. It would be hypocritical of me if meanwhile I support a bill that condones hunting, even if it opposes crush.

I have observed from the start that the whole thing, from the striking down, by the Supreme Court, of the law banning all videos depicting animal cruelty, to the proposal of a new bill to ban only crush videos while specifically exempting hunting videos, to be a clever maneuver motivated by the hunting lobby itself and supported by a prohunting court and congress. If we successfully push for this anti-crush but pro-hunting law, and further proclaim victory, the hunters would laugh all the way to the forest while snickering about us being a ship of fools. And the anti-hunting movement would have been dealt a heavy blow.

I understand the eagerness on everyone’s part, including my own, to have crush videos banned immediately or sooner. On the other hand, unity and solidarity do not mean sacrificing one AR movement (anti-hunting) for another (anti-crush). From the anti-hunting point of view, we would be doing the hunters’ bidding to support the pittance of a bill which legitimizes the production and marketing of hunting videos with impunity. Pardon me for this analogy, but to over-eagerly fall for this bill without question is tantamount to a child eagerly accepting a piece of candy from a villain while handing over his whole piggy bank.

Ideally, what we should do is to counter-challenge the court decision to have it overturned. I understand that this will make the anti-crush campaign more difficult and prolonged, but if the anti-crush movement truly seeks solidarity with the rest of the AR community, it cannot sacrifice another movement to attain a quick fix for itself.

I have a feeling that the whole thing hasn’t been carefully thought through, and the Big Picture has not been looked at. At first sight of a bill proposing to ban crush videos, and we fall for it, line, hook and sinker. I entreaty everyone to at least analyze the situation thoroughly before taking this crucial step.

In solidarity,

Anthony M

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In response, Marla, Anthony D and Paul F explained that the exemption clause in HR 5092 was not to legitimize hunting videos, but to clarify that the bill refers to banning crush videos only, and not for banning hunting videos, towards which other bills could be launched. Thereupon I wrote another email as follows:

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May 11, 2010

Dear all,

I’m glad we had our discussion. I think the whole situation is a lot clearer for all concerned, both about the nature of the beast and my concern about hunting videos.

My new understanding, correct me if I’m wrong, is that the new bill HR 5092 deals with crush videos only, and the hunting video exemption clause is to clarify that this bill does not refer to hunting videos, and not a blanket protection for hunting videos against all future attacks.

If this is true, I will throw the full support of GAHC into your fight for HR 5092, with the understanding that if and when GAHC forces a new similar bill to ban hunting videos, the anti-crush forces will rally behind GAHC. I will likely have many speeches to make at the conference, and will plug the March on Washington, but will also make clear that an attack against hunting videos are in the stars. And, as Marla pointed out, the March will be not confined to crush, but all animal abuse. Therefore, I will also make a large banner saying “BAN HUNTING VIDEOS!”

Anthony M

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So, all who read this blog, please do join us in the March on Washington, and let your voice – for the voiceless – be heard, whichever animal(s) you wish to champion, and pass the invitation on far and wide.

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On the drive yesterday, I took a detour to visit Sedona – well worth the extra time. A stunningly beautiful place to the eyes, and supposedly to the spirit.

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I also drove to the meteorite crater near Flagstaff.

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I was there a few years ago, so did not spend the $15 to go back in to see it again, but did take a picture of its external profile.

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Here are some old pics, but the crater is timeless.

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Thin dust cloud over freeway; the thick ones of which AZ is infamous have been known to cause fatal multi-vehicle collisions

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All the electric cars in the world make no difference if electricity is generated from these coal fire plants

This evening I will give a potluck speech in Albuquerque organized by Adriana who heard my speech at the Animal Rights Forum in Long Beach and was impressed, seemingly an eternity ago. Tomorrow, I will drive to El Paso, Texas, for my early afternoon speech and funeral motorcade. I will have a few busy days in Texas before venturing into the deep south.

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Rock formation near Albuquerque

Anthony Marr, Founder and President
Heal Our Planet Earth (HOPE)
Global Anti-Hunting Coalition (GAHC)
Anthony-Marr@HOPE-CARE.org
http://www.HOPE-CARE.org
http://www.MySpace.com/AnthonyMarr
http://www.YouTube.com/AnthonyMarr
http://www.myspace.com/Anti-Hunting_Coalition
http://www.facebook.com/Anthony.Marr.001
http://www.facebook.com/Global_Anti-Hunting_Coalition
http://www.HomoSapiensSaveYourEarth.blogspot.com
http://www.facebook.com (search for “Anthony Marr Heal Our Planet Earth”)
http://www.ARConference.org
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2010-05-09 – Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #14 – Phoenix, AZ


2010-05-09

Anthony Marr’s CARE-7 tour blog #14

Phoenix, AZ

Phoenix is a beautiful name, with mythological origins. It signifies rebirth by the incineration of corrupted values, from whose ashes rise those of a higher state of being.

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So when, in the 100 degree heat, I became one with the Phoenicians in the Funeral Motorcade for the Animals, the rising of a higher state of being was very much on my mind. And the corrupted values are personified by a concentration camp called Covance, in which hideous experiments are being performed by the likes of Dr. Joseph Mengele, where only the victims are not the same. But I’m getting slightly ahead of myself. I should first tell you the story of the crying child.

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The first time I laid eyes on this child, I was searching through the trunk of my Green Hornet parked outside the Andria residence for my favorite T-shirt, the black one with the majestic white-tailed deer on its front, the one I wore at Love’s Alchemy Spiritual Center in Las Vegas. I was kicking myself that not only did I leave my car key in the ignition, I had left the T-shirt and its accompanying black jeans at the house of Greg Lewis and Dale Gilbert where I stayed the night.

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I heard a sound, turned, and saw this beautiful 10-year-old boy with golden hair smiling at me. “Hi, I’m Anthony. You must be Nicholas.”

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Like his mother Michelle and step-father Chris, Nick made me feel welcomed and at home without trying. By the time I met him, which was in the mid-afternoon of May 7, Friday, I had already established an entertaining interactive pattern with Chris where we set up a chess board on the kitchen counter, and made moves whenever we came up for air from our respective computers, the whole game lasting the greater part of the day. I had my book [Homo Sapiens! SAVE YOUR EARTH!] lying next to the board. After I had made a move, I would turn it face up, and after Chris had made a move, he would turn it face down.

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When Nick came in, he was at once drawn to the game, and the next time I went to the kitchen to make a move, he had turned all the pieces facing exactly the right ways, Chris’s facing east, mine facing west. As it happened, this first game between the appreciative guest and the hospitable host ended perfectly – a stalemate with only the two kings left standing nakedly on the board.

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Michelle Andria, my gracious host

When 5 pm came around, I followed the Andrias to the home of Susan Mazey, the host of the vegan potluck. There, I found Jan McClellan, the organizer of the funeral motorcade schedules for the next day, with whom I felt an immediate rapport. There was also Shaynie Aero, who had arranged more than one speaking opportunity for me in my previous visits to Phoenix.

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Another lady, Estee Flynn, introduced herself to me as the mother of Shauna Saling who was present at the Las Vegas event.

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The others I did not recognize, but all made me feel as if they had known me for ages. The dogs they had brought were obviously well loved.

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After the delicious dinner, Jan introduced my talk, which I gave with my usual gusto. When I touched upon the New Jersey state constitution stipulating that of the 11 voting commissioners determining wildlife management policy, at least 6 must be hunters, there was the usual collective groan, followed by Lisa Baker of United for Animals informing me that in Arizona, there will be a ballot in November to determine whether hunting should be entrenched as a constitutional right. After talking about the conspiracy by bow-hunters at Trexler, and the ~250 human traffic fatalities per year caused by hunters boosting the deer population by 30 million using food-plots for hunting purposes, and the unconstitutional state-level hunter-harassment laws exemplified by the case of Jan Haagensen, I moved on to global warming. I started by first asking the audience who among them doubt global warming as a fact. Only one hand came up, and it was Chris’s. I said, “I’ll have to beat the hell out of you in our next chess game then.” The resulting laughter was light-hearted, but as usual, my talk was dead serious. The main body of the audience took it in like spirit, so much so that towards the end, young Nicholas began to cry.

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Upon seeing his tears, I suspended my speech, and went to comfort him. While Michelle took one of his hands, I held his other hand and said to him, “Don’t lose heart, Nicholas, I will do all I can to help save the world for you, but you must be brave and lead your generation to save it for yourselves and your own children.” After some long seconds, he nodded almost imperceptibly, but the whole time, tears kept streaming down his face.

Afterward, Michelle said quietly to me, “I believe you. I think it is too late. But the people in the street don’t care.” I responded that it was not necessarily too late, since I had a secret formula to save the world on the brink of global and irreversible catastrophe. She looked at me questioningly. But the evening had run its course.

On my way back to the Andria’s place in my car I was slightly concerned that Chris might be angry at me for upsetting Nick, but amazingly, he was even friendlier with me than before.

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May 8, Saturday, the day of the funeral motorcade in the Phoenix area, temperature 100 degrees plus. About 15 cars assembled at the city park in Chandler near where the Covant laboratories are located.

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Michelle Andria’s SUV, which brought up the rear

Jan McClellan deliberately excluded the name of Covant from her press releases so that media would not pre-alert Covant about our plan to “invade” their property. Fox-10 sent a camera down, and Jan served as spokesperson.

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After the interview, she led the procession on her predetermined route,

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but as soon as we enter the Covant parking lot, we were intercepted by a police vehicle, joined minutes later by another.

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Jan being in the lead was the one to be questioned by police. My Green Hornet was the second vehicle, and I could see the policeman clearly, and his body language was not hostile. The second policeman looked a little more stern, who, while Jan was still talking to the first, he came down the line and told each of us, rather quietly, to leave the Covant property in an orderly fashion, which we did.

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Later, Michelle, whose SUV was bringing up the rear, told us that the police cars had been following her for blocks, and as soon as we got near Covant, they sped off in the different direct to intercept us. And Jan told us that the first policeman was actually quite pleasant and sympathetic, saying that he understood our sentiments about Covant, but his job was to enforce the law, and the law says that we could not demonstrate on a private property.

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We ended the procession in the parking lot of another city park and took group pictures,

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after which we went to the Kokopelle restaurant for drinks and dinner. Michelle, who was sitting across the table from me asked me about my “secret formula” to save the world, and I told her about Integrative Transcendence, which she seemed to have grasped. Somewhat later, Chris asked what we were talking about. Michelle said, “We’re talking about I.T., about it is not your kind of I.T.,” Chris being a computer techie.

Tomorrow, I’ll go to Tucson to speak at the Lovin’ Spoonfuls restaurant, hosted by Cheena.

Even though Anthony Damiano begin_of_the_skype_highlighting     end_of_the_skype_highlighting has returned to his home state of Florida, his heart is still with the tour. The following thread will show his continuing dedication to the cause:

Anthony Damiano: Please contact us if you wish to support Anthony Marr on the CARE-7 tour!

Missy VeganOddity: I wish I could..anything else I can help with?

Anthony Damiano: Cathy, Christine and Chrissy need help calling groups to organize vegan meet-ups and trying to get people/groups out to the motorcades…

Pam Davis: Anthony, just talked to Anthony Marr in getting our Dallas tour leg planned. Is this called the CARE-7 tour?

Anthony Damiano: Yes it is. His 7th Compassion for Animals Road Expedition 🙂

Pam Davis: Kewl. Wanted the ‘official’ name. He is posting each tour stop to his blog too 🙂

Anthony Damiano: Yes, he will keep everyone updated. I am so sorry that I will miss Texas because there are some really great people there, but I could not put financial pressure on the tour. Please make your event huge for Anthony. 🙂

Pam Davis: I’m sorry Anthony that you can’t make it as we really wanted to meet you! Do you know any specific AR people? If so please tell me, and I will include them in our postings. We are going to make this event VERY BIG Anthony. I just spoke with Dr Pippin of PCRM, and he did a motorcade for the seals with Anthony a few years ago, and he is going too… See more post-it to his newsgroups, and we have 5 area Petland campaigns, where we protest EVERY saturday, so I know we’ll have all our usually Dallas store protesters, plus the additional AR people and every day folks. Dr Pippin will get in touch with the media, and we already have our ACT Community Center lined up to meet there for the funeral start, and will have a vegan potluck there when it’s finished. I expect close to 50 people EASILY!

Dian Hardy: Hey, Pam! Be sure to include me in your posts. Although I’m in Europe now I still want to keep in touch.

Artist Catherine Garneau: If anyone wants to schedule an event with Anthony Marr on his tour… please message me a.s.a.p. Thanks!

Pam Davis: Hey Dian, where did you live before? I will include you … going to create a Facebook ‘event’ and will send link @Artist Catherine…. do you help coordinate the tours?

Thank you, everyone! And Anthony, see you in Florida in June, my brother!

Anthony Marr, Founder and President
Heal Our Planet Earth (HOPE)
Global Anti-Hunting Coalition (GAHC)
Anthony-Marr@HOPE-CARE.org
http://www.HOPE-CARE.org
http://www.MySpace.com/AnthonyMarr
http://www.YouTube.com/AnthonyMarr
http://www.myspace.com/Anti-Hunting_Coalition
http://www.facebook.com/Anthony.Marr.001
http://www.facebook.com/Global_Anti-Hunting_Coalition
http://www.HomoSapiensSaveYourEarth.blogspot.com
http://www.facebook.com (search for “Anthony Marr Heal Our Planet Earth”)
http://www.ARConference.org